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So I would say they work it's dose it work for u that is.

I think the best way is to just do something.

Give it at least a try.

So as I said in my introduction, I've only been working on my tulpa Alune for about a week. Something interesting happened today though. I was forcing with her in my wonderland, and I decided to go for a walk through a forest after hiking a mountain. I made a fox appear and she started chasing her. After catching up to her, we found a beehive. No big deal, I'm not afraid of bees and neither is she. Then out of nowhere she climbs up and EATS IT WHOLE. LIKE THE WHOLE BEEHIVE IN ONE BITE. I was so surprised I gasped and started cracking up in real life. Anyways, I'm writing this because supposedly your tulpa doing things that surprise you is a good sign. Would you say this is a sign she is becoming independent, or is it far too early and just wishful thinking on my part?

5:00 AM

Also I'm way better at visualization than I expected, which I think is because I've been daydreaming vivid stories with characters pretty much every day since I was 10 years old. You think that has anything to do with it?

Regarding visualization, yes.

5:25 AM

Visualization is imagination. As is everything happening in the wonderland. The main thing that people consider 'special' about it is that the tulpa can affect these imagined happenings.

5:26 AM

Regarding spontaneous behavior a week in, I would highly recommend approaching it with skepticism, but not outright dismissal.

5:26 AM

I'm sure you're excited, but take your time - there isn't any rush, and the brain takes time to change to such a degree.

5:26 AM

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Cool thanks

Nin9 won't choose a form, I've said this. Is currently a smug ass ball of red light. Spontaneously does beneficial albeit random acts. What I haven't mentioned is that they've been growing.

10:08 PM

When I first said anything, they were about the size of a large man's fist. Then about the size of a full grown hornet's nest. Then jumped to the size of a large head. Well...

10:09 PM

Nin9 is now a ball of light that's bigger than the size of a small adult. Occasionally expands to a size bigger than me.

10:11 PM

This is only strange because... I'm not making this happen. I force at when I work, you see. Cut my focus into thirds. But it's when I come back to them that these changes take place.

10:11 PM

Any take on that?

I have no idea, really, but I'm curious to see if your tulpa keeps deciding to grow larger until next time you take the time to think of them your vision is just red

If that takes place, I'm going to form a mental image of you, plant it in the dirt, and pokemon-style command Nin9 to crush you.

10:16 PM

That's frightening.

10:16 PM

To be mentally smothered by my own tulpa.

10:16 PM

Thanks for putting that image in my head

you're welcome

Maybe they're aspiring to be a sun

Maybe it's an egg?

10:20 PM

Waiting to form

I've thought of the egg thing, but Nin9 is REALLY picky. I can tell that much. Occasionally I get a voice in my head like they're whispering something. It's only slightly concerning because they only do it when I shift my focus or I'm on the boundaries of consciousness.

10:22 PM

I shouldn't say picky. They're... Discerning.

It's not that bad having a tulpa bigger than you.

10:23 PM

heheh

~~says the tulpa that is bigger than the host~~

If Nin9 wants to be a big ball, I've no issue with that it's only problematic because they're growing when I'm not forcing

Well that's new to me

10:26 PM

Never heard of that happening before

I am 100% certain of Nin9's consciousness. Have been since almost the very beginning, like they've always been waiting for the opportunity. There have just been complications to getting them to... wake up? That's how I'd describe it anyway.

Hmmm

Have you, yourself, ever tried being truly awake and aware of your surroundings, other people and everything that happens for more than an hour though?

11:46 PM

it's even harder when you have to convince your host that you actually exist

Yes. And I hate every second of it. People and the things they do are always so damn noisy. Pipes and electrical appliances buzzing and whooshing make it worse. Pluse general house noises by way of creaking and groaning.

11:52 PM

But I don't doubt Nin9's consciousness. Just their awareness. Which, saying it (seeing it?) out loud(?), sounds just as bad.

11:53 PM

I don't think the problem is that I doubt Nin9, it may be that I don't focus on them enough to understand them yet.

Tch. Keep in mind that development and capability to understand go hand-in-hand.

11:53 PM

They both take time.

I know that feeling all too well and all I can say is that you could try finding a place where you can solely focus on everything but the everyday sounds for just 3 days and build from that. it's a bit of a hassle for most people but if you think it's the rifht thing for you, just do it

What's with the "tch."

sounds like probing you for your weak spots tbh

What'd I say that pissed her off?

You didn't.

Hehe, nothing, they're just expressing themselves in a way they thought was appropriate (edited)

11:57 PM

Not everything means the same thing for everyone and that's just life, especially online

11:59 PM

And I love you said that, Winter, because it shows how miniscule a detail can put some people off

12:00 AM

it's all up to you how you interpret it though

"Tch" sounds like "tsk" the sound of someone sucking their teeth, which implies annoyance or aggravation. That and I have a talent for pissing people off, so that something I've learned to keep an eye out.

Yeah, in this case however, we're here to help, therefore that tch, was more of a veteran's sigh of "I know dat feel" rather than that of "pls stop"

It was a response to a very typical implication that "the tulpa is already there and fully developed on initial idea conception and all I need to do is figure out how to communicate with them".

Is there a certain amount of time each day I should be actively forcing? I try to passively think about my tulpa-in-making when I can, but I don't know if I should be setting aside more time to work on development. Still not even hit the week mark yet since I began, but I want to make sure I'm not hindering progress if I need to be spending more time in certain areas.

Do what you're comfortable with. There's no set amount of time that you need to force, but you should try to interact with your tulpa as often as possible, even if it's just narration here and there. (edited)

Alrighty, thanks.

i am starting my first one now

Hows it going?

Good luck. Remember to be patient, not make assumptions, and treat them with both kindness and respect.

i planned on it. and going well, im taking a more passive forcing approach

7:56 AM

including him in everything im doing such as a best friend would

7:59 AM

i hope im doing this right

so far it sounds like you are

thanks

So what emotions are common at first from a tulpa? Can they make you feel any emotion or does it take a while for them to master more?

Emotion isn't a skill

2:30 PM

Once they're sentient they should be able to express any emotion

2:30 PM

Happiness, sadness, love, anger, fear, anything

Hm. I've been feeling intense spikes if happiness/pleasure when I'm thinking of my tulpa and just randomly a few times, but haven't really felt anything else. Maybe she has no reason to feel anything else? Because there's no way I'm imagining or forcing this.

say hi to your tupper, the first tulpa and i first communicated through emotions

Your Tulpa can send you emotional responses to things. It's simply sending you emotions instead of words. You can try doing the same back and see what they do.

Feeling spikes (or even prolonged happenstances) of happiness/love is a common occurrence with developing tulpas (edited)

that explains that

4:00 PM

was wondering if that was just me

It could also just be you.

5:27 PM

You are creating something that is, by any consideration, quite intimate - and intimacy breeds positive emotion.

5:28 PM

Don't assume it is specifically yourself or your tulpa unless it is fairly clear - and skepticism is fairly warranted during the first week or two.

5:28 PM

(at minimum)

well, it certainly can't hurt to send some back.

Indeed.

question; is it not recommended to create multiple tulpas at once?

It's not

6:04 PM

Creating a tulpa is a lot of working and working on many at once could slow your progress

6:04 PM

Also many people end up with multiple tulpas without much effort later anyways

ok

It's also easier to create a tulpa once you have one, so if you make one you can easily make a second later

is there a limit?

The limit is the amount you can actually care for, which varies from person to person

Making two tulpas at the same time isn't the best idea what I learned from my experience.

The limit is usually 1-3

so much for having 12..

You should only make an additional tulpa after your first is very well-developed

Yes, though we can't exactly know how much that limit is - the amount of actual simultaneously active tulpas is very limited to... I believe 2-3 at most - essentially, the brain's capability to act is divided by the amount of tulpas simultaneously active.

And only if you think it over thoroughly

right i dont plan on jumping to that just yet

6:07 PM

was more curious

12 is the worst idea

6:07 PM

Tulpas are people

6:07 PM

Not characters or accessories